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Re: Killing Mathis

avguy2 — Mon, 24 Nov 2025 19:07:25 +0000

I'm a Rogue with Speed 16, Brawn 25, 0 Magic, 1 Armour -- I just killed Mathis! I rolled a LOT of sixes, but unfortunately only for my attacks.

I thought maybe I made a mistake that I defeated Mathis rather easily, but I've checked with the "Hero Builder" for LoS. At first I thought I made a mistake, because I had noted the "Gorgis Grip" item which doesn't appear in the list. But I've double-checked the entry in the book and and my equipment seems legit.

>> @Da Boss: in the Hero Builder [The Legion of Shadow (item data)] PDF the items from Section 297 are missing.
>> Also I can't use the search on the forums, it gives an error (I tried Firefox and Chrome). Luckily I've found this topic anyway.

Ok back to topic: I'm houseruling that instead of actually killing Mathis, my final blow snaps me out of it.

I suggest maybe updating section 700 with something to that effect.

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Re: Killing Mathis

hellslayer — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:37:38 +0100

Yes, I think I just got lucky and pulled and a off three sixes rather quickly. But I did get a good shot a him at the first attck( piercing and a few boosts...)

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Re: Killing Mathis

pwgresty — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 12:36:35 +0100

Well, from what I've learned from my - single - playthrough, and from what I've seen on the forum here, Mages can put together some pretty decent equipment - that is, if they're willing to completely neglect armour.

An Alchemist's advantage over the other Mage careers is that they're not item-dependent; they can keep that talisman spot for something that gives an extra point in Speed.

On the downside, an Alchemist probably won't do a lot of passive damage per round, or be able to hit several enemies at once. I was very tempted to change to Pyromancer when I found the appropriate item. Ignite/Burn/Embers would have been just lovely. But in the end, I really wanted to hang onto that extra point of Speed. Plus I didn't really like the idea of being dependent on an item for my career - an Alchemist's abilities, non-focused on combat as they are, are at least 'inherent'.

On the other hand, completely neglecting Armour can prove tricky too - even with a high Speed, I found it absolutely impossible to get past King Louis, the big white ape, in Act II. His huge automatic damage per round, and me having no armour to soak it up, just made the fight too difficult.

Ah, Mathis I can take down, but the great big monkey is the one that got away...

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Re: Killing Mathis

Bishop — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:46:11 +0100

Lol that's funny! When you read the skills you think alchemist is one of the worst classes but now I think they are best by far.

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Re: Killing Mathis

pwgresty — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 07:40:15 +0100

It's possible. An alchemist can get up to Speed 18 (my guy had Speed 18, Magic 23, Armour 2).

I fought Mathis on my first playthrough, and got him down to 95 health without ever taking damage. But then I rolled my third '6'. So I made a note of what point I was at in the combat, and then - finding this thread - went back to finish him off.

By the time I got him down to 100 health or so, I'd used up all my damage-dodging Abilities, so he did start to get a few lucky hits in. He bopped me three times, if I remember. But I had the 'Leech' ability. I was only hitting him for about 7 or 8 damage each time ('Rust' was handy, too), but each of those little taps was also replenishing my own health.

My health score was 17 when Mathis went down at last. No potions used throughout.

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Re: Killing Mathis

Perceval — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:32:29 +0100

Tactics for that fight.
1. Roll sixes.
2. Get the hell out of there!!!

I don't reckon you can do that much damage to him. Even with piercing.... his stats are too good. Shame. As he is annoying

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Re: Killing Mathis

Blazzor — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:21:14 +0100

speed 15 and armor 19. i very much think it impossible.

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Killing Mathis

Legion — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:57:04 +0100

I just got Mathis down to 100 health before dying. Thought I'd try it as a test ignoring the -[snap out of it]- ability. Has anyone actually defeated him? I notice there is no rule for if you defeat him so the author assumes you would die or break the spell.

It would have been good if there was a special achievement for killing the annoying inquisitor!

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