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Re: Death is not the end...?

THE GOAT — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:07:09 +0000

i must admit
i dont see it as dyeing
just losing a fight
so you can go staight back in to it
and try it a different way

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Re: Death is not the end...?

NexusOne — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:47:30 +0100

For me it all comes down to what is fun for you? I'm perfectly fine with the author's intentions and game design. However, for me personally, being able to go right back to where you left off removes all of the tension in the battles.

Again, this is not to say any particular method is right or wrong. I mean, how you play does not affect anyone else or their enjoyment of the book in any way.

I just recently started playing/reading this great book and have died several times in what some of you here describe as "hardcore" mode. I might have to do as some others have done and chronicle this in the spoiler section. Could be fun to keep track of all the deaths.

Bottom line - great book. Have fun.

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GoneMad222 — Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:58:21 +0100

I also have to say that i was shocked about the no death system first. I played nearly all FF, and some other series. I thought that this system was only made to ensure that the dumb average person can win the game and the books sales are higher - like may great strategic or rpg titles have become worser and worser in order to make them playeble for the most stupid people.

After i played the whole book, i agree, that this system is really great. Especially because there is at least one hard enemy for every character setup.
Further more the book is several times longer than any other gamebook. Someone who dies for example in the mid of act 3 will most likely "cheat" if theres a "NO DEATH" system.

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Rithe — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:37:55 +0100

Except that death not effecting your character is part of the plot... Although, I do see it from the quest side of things. It would make some sense that you couldn't finish a quest after a few times. How many times will the Big Bad Wolf appear, and still be healthy. Or will things really remain the same?

Of course, this is written as an MMO in book form, so it does make some sense in that aspect.

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Slloyd14 — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:40:53 +0100

Another penalty I am thinking of having is maybe a limit to how many times you can attempt a quest? How about 3 times? That way, if you die the first time, then you can search around for better equipment to do it again but eventually, if you can't do it the third, then you give up on that one.

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Re: Death is not the end...?

Dominik — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:11:40 +0100

Hi there,

I'm the guy behind this blog entry.

Funny, to see it in this forum!

Don't forget - it's just my personal opinion, and nothing to be upset about.

It's still a well written book.

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Re: Death is not the end...?

Da Boss — Fri, 12 Aug 2011 08:09:04 +0100

Sorry Starscream, I had to delete your earlier post. Let's keep it polite and constructive on these forums please ;) Cheers!

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silicon spirit — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:05:18 +0100

Cut the man some slack. he seems to like the book but is less sure of the gamery parts of it. I can accept that as I've not played this type of book before. But i've played through dq three times now as all three classes and each time had a completely different journey more because of the combat than the choices in the story. I would worry about anyone who ignores the combat in this game could not really give an opinion on it. i tend to agree with the author this is an action gamebook. Be prepared for action! lol

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Re: Death is not the end...?

StarScream — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:17:47 +0100

http://ewigeheld.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/destinyquest-death-is-not-the-end/

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Darth Fluffy — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:06:20 +0100

I've read some of those also and have been amazed by one blogger who criticised the lack of a "penalty system" but then freely admits in his next post to cheating his way through a combat in the first act.

http://ewigeheld.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/destinyquest-death-is-not-the-end/

Anything that is new is going to receive a range of diverse opinions. I personally love what Destiny Quest is doing but I understand that it is not to all tastes. I do reckon that some of the people who are criticising the game probably need to play the book more. I don't think act one is a great representation of the rest of the book.

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Da Boss — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:28:55 +0100

Phew! Thank you! It is good to get some positive praise about the 'death system'. I've been reading quite a few negative posts on various forums, which was starting to make me question the whole game system! I'm glad that there are people out there who understand why the game functions as it does.

I think part of the problem is that many traditional gamebook readers are not used to DestinyQuest being an 'action' gamebook, in that the combat is as vital to the narrative of your adventure as the actual descriptive sections. Once players are mid-way through Act 2 and are juggling ten or more abilities, and seeing how they interact and support each other and their careers, then I think the death system (or lack of) speaks for itself. Often, you need a few attempts to get through a fight, because of the sheer amount of options available to you. Not to mention the quirks of dice rolling and probability...

I'm also glad that players are finding their own means of incorporating penalties - if they feel they need that 'slap on the hand' for losing a combat.

So, just wanted to say a big thank you for the positive feedback. Cheered me up!

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Death is not the end...?

FabLandFan — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:23:12 +0100

I just read your News post titled 'Death is not the end...?' and wanted to say that I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts spelled out so clearly and thoroughly.

When I first discovered this rule I was very surprised, and set out with the intention of playing your gamebook with a no-deaths character like I do with other gamebooks. As I read and played the book though I came to love your system, and see how it worked well with your style of tactical/strategic combat gameplay.

I do play with one custom variation of your rules though. When I die I force myself to remove any consumable items I was carrying. I tend to be a horder (which is not good for this style of gamebook with such a restrictive carrying limit). And I tend to avoid using consumables (saving them for later when I might really need them - at least that's my backwards thinking - I know it is contradictory). So this rules variation ensures that I do actually use consumables even for 'easy' fights that I might get unlucky dice rolls, and I find I enjoy the book more as a result.

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